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FG to Fund 2011 Polls with Bond Issue
Posted by on August 12, 2010 in State of State | 0 Comment
The Federal Government will fund the 2011 elections with bond issue for the electoral commission to overhaul voter lists and buy more ballot boxes ahead of January polls, Reuters reported yesterday.


Presidential and parliamentary elections are due to be held in Africa’s most populous nation in less than six months, but the electoral register is in dire need of being updated.
“The request for additional funds is to cover the cost of procuring electronic equipment and other ancillary expenses related to … a fresh voter registration exercise as well as the procurement of additional ballot boxes,” President Goodluck Jonathan said in a submission to parliament.
“We propose to fund this request by raising federal government bonds,” he wrote in the submission, which was approved by lawmakers.
The House of Representatives was expected to approve the N87.72 billion budget for the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) yesterday but it did not.
Government spending was already set to rise sharply this year. Parliament earlier this year approved N445 billion  in extra spending that includes pay rises for civil servants, doctors and professors.


That supplementary spending plans comes on top of the main N4.4 trillion 2010 budget, meaning Nigeria’s fiscal deficit is expected to increase beyond 5.4 per cent of GDP, well above a 3 per cent target set just three years ago.
The finance ministry has warned that government revenues, mostly from oil sales, would not be enough to fund the budget and that the OPEC member would likely have to use up its windfall oil savings or borrow more.


Parliament last month passed a constitutional amendment bringing elections forward to January, leaving little time for reforms needed to avoid a repeat of chaotic 2007 polls.
An electoral roll riddled with fictitious names and omitting legitimate voters was one of the main problems at the 2007 polls, which were so marred by ballot stuffing and intimidation that observers deemed them not to have been credible.
INEC has said the spending plan was largely for the purchase of 120,000 electronic voter registration machines, including laptop computers, finger print scanners, cameras and printers to issue voter cards.


Nigeria’s debt market is deepening but is still dominated by government bonds, which make up some 95 percent of the market. The government recently cut transaction costs and removed taxes on bond issuance, lowering the cost of borrowing.
Sub-Saharan Africa’s second-biggest economy issues sovereign bonds every month as part of measures to restructure its short-term treasury bills to long-dated instruments, to manage liquidity and help curb inflationary pressure.

Culled from ThisDay, August 12, 2010
Post Merge: August 30, 2010, 06:09:55 AMThey borrow plunder the nation's revenues, yet we see nothing! They borrow to line their pockets, empower their lovers and children who spend it on meaningless ventures. They lie to us it's for elections. They dangle the luscious carrots and whip us in the head when we fall for the trick. Jonathan has wrecked the Nigerian economy. He just does not qualifiy to be president. He shall surely account for all his thieving deeds along with his cronies sooner than they think!
Post Merge: August 30, 2010, 06:12:21 AMThey stash away so much to spend in hell bribing satan for a choice spot!
Post Merge: August 30, 2010, 06:23:26 AMDear Nigerians, please vote wisely! Vote out a man who sincerely and innocently wrecks and loots the treasury and leaves the economy worse than he meant it. All the so called bail-out plans for manufacturers and other sectors are sham and beautiful plots to distract us from seeing the real intent to steal our treasury dry! This is the state of our economy at the moment. Nigeria has gone broke again!
Post Merge: August 30, 2010, 06:24:47 AMThe talk about free and fair elections is meant to divert our attention from what's happening to the economy.
Post Merge: August 30, 2010, 06:40:13 AMSuddenly, Jonathan the liar shifts the goal post to 2012 and gives us excuses for not delivering on the promises he made on power. That goes to show that he does not have even the minutest understanding of the issues affecting the power sector: mainly corruption! Or rather, he has chosen to pretend for two reasons: he is stealing himself using fronts and does not want to stir the hornet's nest so he does not get stung; he  wants to be seen as having the solution to power problem and so ensured the mere window-dressing we see right now in the name of marginal power improvement to get our votes as the messiah to continue his good works (?). Even as we ask the anti-corruption agencies to ensure that no criminal contest in the next round of elections, we the people must also ensure that these criminals in high places who have insulated themselves in the law and steal legally both in the national assembly and the presidency and across the states and local governments are roundly defeated and put where they really belong. Don't forget, they are desperate as they must remain there to cover up. But, fellow Nigerians, it is left to us to change the tone and to play the music we desire to hear!
Post Merge: August 30, 2010, 06:43:28 AMLet us go all out to own the processes leading to the elections and the actual exercise! That is why Jega cannot accept to use the solution offered by NigCOMSAT: a ready and workable solution. He has to get back to Jonathan and all those who have interests in the monies set aside to be stolen in the name of elections. GOD will surele disgrace and expose them left, right and center. We await them all on election day!
Post Merge: August 30, 2010, 06:45:00 AMLet us go all out to own the processes leading to the elections and the actual exercise! That is why Jega cannot accept to use the solution offered by NigCOMSAT: a ready and workable solution. He has to get back to Jonathan and all those who have interests in the monies set aside to be stolen in the name of elections. GOD will surely disgrace and expose them left, right and center. We await them all on election day!

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Jega paid a cursory visit to NigCOMSAT to inspect their offering but left without a commitment to use the infrastructure on offer. In the coming days, INEC's posturing will tell volumes on whether personal interests, in terms of money already set aside to be siphoned, supercede national interest! The picture appears hazy at the moment. However, we shall soon know how truly committed Jega is when he fails to embrace workable local solutions proffered by patriotic Nigerians. Jega has just been offered an opportunity to write his name on the sands of time by NigCOMSAT!
Post Merge: August 29, 2010, 05:42:26 AMThe usual prophets of doom are already cashing in on the furore and confusion that have ensued since the issue of zoning or no zoning came up. The see nothing good about a country God has blessed so much and their satan-inspired prophecies have never (not even once) proffered any meaningful solution to the country's problems. These experts in doom theory have failed to realize that Nigeria is strategically positioned by God to impact the world positively. They do not realize that God is very much interested in whipping erring politicians into line and lifting up men of unequivocal integrity and with a clear vision of where the country needs to go. They have armed politicians with charms and portents and all kinds of warped spiritual tools and have failed to caution them when they err. True prophets do not only speak for the sake of their bellies but for the good of society. Let them open their spiritually corrupt ears and hear well, there shall be no bloodshed in 2011. Nigeria will experience the greatest transformation ever. These guys who are usually paid heavily by IBB and the military leaders to prophesy doom are at it again. They always see people dying  every year when it is obvious anyway that people will die every year. Fellow Nigerians, we have a golden opportunity to change forever to change our course and descent into anarchy for good. God did not make a mistake orchestrating this beautiful entity called Nigeria: a land truly flowing with milk and honey. He has a clear irreversible plan to salvage this treasure he made. Let the prophets of doom pack up their luggage of spiritual deception and repent or else, i repeat, or else they shall face the wrath of The Most High. 2011 will be a year when they shall be exposed for who they truly are for they will meet face to face with the God of all gods, the Supreme Commander of the universe and the real owner and creator of Nigeria. Nigeria shall indeed be freed from the grips of demons who have operated through our politicians and fake prophets who have sold the soul of the country for filthy lucre and to enjoy government protection at all levels. These spiritual lepers and morally bankrupt group of people in connivance with thieving politicians are the real causes of Nigeria's problems. Fellow Nigerian's as we all worship God in spirit and in truth in our various places of worship today, we release the power of The Most High Personage in the universe to combat and counter these forces of retrogression.
Post Merge: August 29, 2010, 05:53:14 AMdo not be carried away by their usual lies. They've told these same lies every year to prevent you and I from performing our civic responsibilities and to scare us a way from the polling stations. They have used these same device to ensure that we cannot protect our votes. Fellow Nigerians, consider it yourselves, does God tell lies? He never does! He speaks The
Truth because He is THE TRUTH! Come out of your shells. Register, Vote and Defend your votes! God bless us all as we consider the good of our dear nation! We are not Nigerians by mistake. We shall realize our full potentials as a nation. Be assured that God will not let the wicked men ascend the throne in 2011. No IBB or all the military might of this world or all the covens of witches masquerading as prophets shall be able to contend with the One who breaks the jaws of leviathan and the blast of the breath of whose nostrils cause the enemy to expire. He, The Only True God, is Lord over Nigeria and He shall not fail us as we shall not fail ourselves in 2011 and beyond!
Post Merge: August 29, 2010, 05:20:11 PMRaymond Dokpesi is trying so hard to distort history with the image laundering job he's doing for IBB through AIT. Though some of us were little, we know the events and stories that characterize that period. It's so unfortunate that some Nigerians are hell bent on keeping this nation in a comatose state. But, the will of the people mus prevail. IBB has no stake whatsoever in the new dispensation. The documentary is, however, full of insights into how our so called elders and politicians connived to scuttle June 12. God will keep on using them to expose their levels of treachery, deceit and intrigues. Fellow Nigerians, neither IBB nor any of these old crop of politicians have a solution to Nigeria's problems. They are the problems in the first place. Let the 2011 elections reflect our resolve as a people to put our dear country on the right path. Vote only credible candidates and not any of these expired products.
Post Merge: August 29, 2010, 05:36:22 PMRaymond Dokpesi is trying so hard to distort history with the image laundering job he's doing for IBB through AIT. Though some of us were little, we know the events and stories that characterize that period. It's so unfortunate that some Nigerians are hell bent on keeping this nation in a comatose state. But, the will of the people mus prevail. IBB has no stake whatsoever in the new dispensation. The documentary is, however, full of insights into how our so called elders and politicians connived to scuttle June 12. God will keep on using them to expose their levels of treachery, deceit and intrigues. Fellow Nigerians, neither IBB nor any of these old crop of politicians have a solution to Nigeria's problems. They are the problems in the first place. Let the 2011 elections reflect our resolve as a people to put our dear country on the right path. Vote only credible candidates and not any of these expired products.

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@Emmy: Thanks a gillion! I intend to remain focused and to present the issues as they really are based on hard facts and nothing less. Once again, thanks a gillion! Fellow Nigerians, sorry for the little distraction. Let's stay focused on the issues and help to proffer meaningful solutions to the nation's problems.
Post Merge: August 27, 2010, 11:59:15 AMINEC has made it's first move, part of the plan, to recruit students in Nigerian universities and Youth Corpers. I suggest this is a good move! However, Nigerian youths should be prepared to resist every attempt at getting them to compromise their consciences. Many Nigerian students have gone through hell to get tertiary education. For many, the future seems so uncertain. They wonder how they'll get jobs and a secure future. Let me remind you all, dearest Nigerian youths, that the very persons who have deliberately connived and contrived this uncertain future for us are the present crops of politicians, some of whom had been there even before independence. In their own time, they had the best of environments to study. The had quality lecturers. But when they left, they presided over the destruction of the system they benefited so much from along with some bunch of school drop-outs, area boys and social misnomers we call Nigerian Armed Forces. Thank God today for the new crop of soldiers we have who are well educated. We can't say that, however, for the Nigerian Police - easily the most disgraceful and embarrassing arm of the armed forces.  Whether you're a youth in school or in the armed forces or you're a top-flight industry professional, you must rise up and let's move this country forward. Do not betray yourselves and your future any longer. Come out enmasse and register and vote for credible candidates irrespective of party affliliation or tribe or sex or zonal trash. It's time to free ourselves from the shackles of these enemies of progress called elders (?). GOD has given us the ability and wisdom to save our dear country! Arise all Nigerians. It is now or never!
Post Merge: August 27, 2010, 06:10:49 PMNext strategy is for the security agencies like the EFCC to be up and doing to ensure that persons who have corruption cases hanging on their necks do not smell public offices again. Also, those who have shady personalities should be screened and stopped from contesting. If the security agencies are truly what they are meant to be, come 2011, no criminal, political or otherwise must be allowed to contest. Nigeria must work!
Post Merge: August 27, 2010, 09:34:10 PMNext strategy is for Nigerians (yes I mean you!) to examine the programmes of those seeking elective offices. It's a simple process examine their programmes, their antecedents, their pedigree and the extent to which they understand issues plaguing the country. Ask them pointed questions. Test their understanding of their programmes. then cast ur vote! I call it TDV (Test, Discover and Vote)!
Post Merge: August 27, 2010, 10:10:57 PMAs a starting point, after benefiting from free and fair elections, the emergent president must be willing to step on toes. He must be seen in words and action to fight and bring down the demon of corruption. Anything short of this is a waste of time and a merry-go-round -  merely beating about the bush! There can't be any real or meaningful development in this country until the issue of corruption is tackled. That is the very reason all the economic theories and principles that have been applied to nurse this nation back to life has failed so far.
Post Merge: August 27, 2010, 10:14:50 PMThe sole responsibility for salvaging this nation rests in the hands of the youth. Our so-called elders have failed woefully and persistently to lead us to the promised land. These days, there's no more a sense of justice and a feeling for the security of the lives of future generations in our elders. They have brazenly and without the slightest feeling of compunction mortgaged our destinies and the future of this country while they stash away billions and trillions (supposedly for their children who would come back to ruin us). All youths in Nigeria must stop listening to their lies geared towards dividing us and pitching us against each other. We must rise to the occasion now or never! These rogues in elders' garbs have no solution to the endemic problems of Nigeria which they caused in the first place and so do not have the desire to reverse the evils they've caused us. They do not even fell repentant. Fellow Nigerians, even if your father were one of them, remember that you would have to face stark-naked realities tomorrow. Let us join hands and speak as one voice to enthrone true democracy in 2011 by ensuring none of these monumental failures who have mortgaged our destinies as well as those of our progeny come close to the seat of power at all levels. They are not remorseful and must persistently keep us in this debilitating state so as to laud it over us! They have had more than 50 years experience on the saddle, yet they refuse to grow up. We can no longer accept to sit back and philosophize like fools claiming, "e go better!', "naija na wa!", "God dey!", "na dem no wetin dem dey do!". Fellow Nigerians, we are the real stakeholders in our future and in the Nigeria of our dreams where we shall have affordable quality education. Come out enmasse and do the needful. Vote for justice, vote for truth, stand in the gap for the future you desire!
Post Merge: August 27, 2010, 10:37:30 PMThis is our real first step as a nation to put our nation back on track. The problem with Nigeria is not the average Hausa man or the Ibo man, or the Yoruba man or the Calabar man or the Urhobo man nor the average person from any other tribe or ethnic group in Nigeria. Our problem is these criminals whom the law is afraid of because the made those laws and so they exploit the loopholes to their advantage, evading prosecution. Known thieves laud it over us. We prosecute them in the court of public opinion. Many of us were little children when IBB foisted the most backward government on us. There are many more adults who were old enough to take the bull by it's horns but failed to do so out of fear of the unknown. Today, we suffer, including they themselves, the consequences of their inaction: a battered economy, crippled political growth, enthroned corruption and wickedness of the highest order. Let there be no Ibo or Yoruba or Hausa man. Let there be true Nigerians whose hearts are set on an irreversible goal to redeem this country from the fangs of these devils. Or should this country remain a big fat fool beyond age 50? The choice is yours and mine to make come 2011!

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@blackjesus: Let's talk about the issues that bother Nigerians most and stop being personal! U're constituting a huge distraction! There are more important issues plaguing this country that need solution than self-advertisement! If u can see what i see already, u'll realize that waiting for him to shoot himself in the leg would cost the country so much. Now that he has the money, i'm more interested in proffering meaningful strategies rather irrelevant, errant nonsense. Be assured you shan't even get a reply from me again! It's so clear where you belong! Remember, the food for the children are not meant for ...! They're not capable of comprehending simple truths! I believe that rather than wait for the process to become flawed, we should speak out. Don't u think u contradict urself so much! Place all ur posts in the thread side by side and if u're really a thinking person, u should be abashed! They just don't make simple sense!
Post Merge: August 25, 2010, 08:32:31 AM@blackjesus: if u want to be a moderator, feel free to have it! that's not my interest. You may confirm i didn't seek for it. All i want is to present the real, hard truths and not baseless issues that derail from the subject. I understand people like u are usually planted to derail meaningful and intelligent discussions and to infuse beer-parlor reasoning and confusion. Sorry, u're dealing with the wrong candidate. If u know my pedigree and where i'm coming from, u'll stop wasting ur time. Stick to the issues on the ground or u'll be ignored like u don't exist!

@ Davincii as the admin of the forum and on behalf of other members i want to tender apology to you for the way blackjesus commented on previous post on this thread to you, you are right davincii, blackjesus is taking issues personal and let me state it clear here that Davincii never asked for the moderator post, i see the qualities in him and that is why i personally assign him the post.
Pals let forget all that and focuses on issues bordering Nigeria which is the basis of Naijavoice, suggesting positive ways out.
Once again please let all members abide by Naijavoice rules, if anybody feel or know of way(s) to move Naijavoice forward should please post under the Naijavoice board under general category or pm me or any of the moderators.

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@blackjesus: Let's talk about the issues that bother Nigerians most and stop being personal! U're constituting a huge distraction! There are more important issues plaguing this country that need solution than self-advertisement! If u can see what i see already, u'll realize that waiting for him to shoot himself in the leg would cost the country so much. Now that he has the money, i'm more interested in proffering meaningful strategies rather irrelevant, errant nonsense. Be assured you shan't even get a reply from me again! It's so clear where you belong! Remember, the food for the children are not meant for ...! They're not capable of comprehending simple truths! I believe that rather than wait for the process to become flawed, we should speak out. Don't u think u contradict urself so much! Place all ur posts in the thread side by side and if u're really a thinking person, u should be abashed! They just don't make simple sense!
Post Merge: August 25, 2010, 08:32:31 AM@blackjesus: if u want to be a moderator, feel free to have it! that's not my interest. You may confirm i didn't seek for it. All i want is to present the real, hard truths and not baseless issues that derail from the subject. I understand people like u are usually planted to derail meaningful and intelligent discussions and to infuse beer-parlor reasoning and confusion. Sorry, u're dealing with the wrong candidate. If u know my pedigree and where i'm coming from, u'll stop wasting ur time. Stick to the issues on the ground or u'll be ignored like u don't exist!

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@blackjesus: That's the point. Jonathan hasn't got the liver to deliver the needful. He's an amiable person, but Nigeria needs a leader who would take the bull of corruption by it's horns; someone who would step on toes of the czars of corruption. Jonathan who rode on the power of the people's will to become president has betrayed the people. He has failed us so brazenly. He is a weakling. His amiable personality (that's all that seems to go for him) cannot deliver what Nigerians yearn for. He, knowingly or unknowingly, has presided over the looting of our commonwealth at such an unprecedented level. It's so appalling! But, never worry, the right candidate will emerge. Jonathan or Babangida or Buhari or Atiku (those waste products) won't be a match for him. When he's unveiled all Nigerians will speak with one voice and in concord! He will be unmistakeable!
Post Merge: August 24, 2010, 01:31:01 PM@blackjesus: U may pls wish to go through ur postings again and admit ur level of civility in ur statements and how mature u've been!
Post Merge: August 24, 2010, 01:32:32 PM@blackjesus: You may also wish to point out the facts u presented in ur arguments. Guess we missed it all!
Post Merge: August 24, 2010, 01:34:09 PM@blackjesus: If the truth is so bitter, learn to embrace it and not falsehood and baseless arguments or else u'll always be faced with the reality of the bitterness of truth!
Post Merge: August 24, 2010, 03:56:20 PMINEC should digitally look inwards - Rufai
By BISI OLALEYE
Tuesday, August 24, 2010

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Managing Director, Nigcomsat, Ahmed Rufai has emphasised the need for the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) to look inwards, rather than tilting towards foreigners for what local original equipment manufacturers (OEM) could handle.

He noted that at least 25 per cent of the N74 billion estimated by INEC to conduct voters’ registration could be saved using the indigenous system-smart card developed by the agency. He said that, if government could encourage local companies like Zinox, Omatek and Beta computer, Nigcomsat would supply the software, while pointing out that INEC does not need special capture machines, which will become useless after the exercise but should deploy local PCs which serve multiple purposes and save cost.
Rufai, who spoke in an interview with journalists, argued that local content would reduce capital flight and create a more robust information technology sector.
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Capital Flight/Developmental agenda
We should believe in ourselves and look inward in developing this country because for every one naira you throw out of this country, you are developing the economy of another country.

Funny enough there are local content bill, they should not just be restricted to the oil industry alone. They should be applied in so many other areas. There was a time the government of this country try to domesticate the textile industry by banning the importation of lace material. But I think it is not banning products that matter, we should try to enhance local industry and it would compete favourably against it foreign counterparts.
If we look at our textile industry, bail out is being mentioned and the money has not even gotten to them. Now, over 140 million Nigerians were using textile before it went down, textile manufacturers were the largest employer of labour in this country, so if you are talking of creating employment and reducing crime, to what extent are we matching our words with action?

E-registration
INEC is trying to be involved in the simplest form of software engineering. The hardware required are laptops and a camcorder. Now, a laptop is less than one thousand dollar, you can even get a Dell laptop for $850 that comes with a camcorder. What makes the e-registration complete is just the software platform, the template that connects them, it is not just a table but an intelligent table, if I can call it, a table that we designed but not with Microsoft window.
For every window, there is software behind the window that is not seen. But to create table itself there is a command and the template will be used for data analysis, storage and production.

DDC Machine
We don’t even need that direct capture machine because they don’t have a second value, they can only be use for that purpose, but computer can do better than that machine. A computer could be used for more than three wards. One could capture people in local governments or wards. Sometimes, a particular voter may run out of patience but he would still be able to vote and the vote recorder against his ward. Somebody can be in Abuja and decide to vote in his local government, he need not be in Okene or Lagos before he could vote in his local government. So all these capabilities are there in an electronic register, what we are saying is that, flexibility has come to the system because we have studied how to do it.

Some people would ask weather we have done it before? The answer is yes, we did it on staff attendance system that is smart card based. We have been using it for over two years and this system was developed by us. It is high time we look inwards, because there are multiple advantages in INEC taking these decisions.

First of all when you are talking of moral integrity, this is guarantied when an individual can
move over financial inducement. Today, they are thinking of providing vendor with 30 per cent, why would one provide a vendor with 30 per cent profit margin, that is already 30 something billion. This 30 billion is enough to build a micro electronic computer line in Nigeria. So imagine, if we start producing our own television as it used to be in Phillip in Ojota in those days or produce our own handset for 50 million mobile telephone users in the country, it would grow the economy, vision 2020 would be achieved and capital flights maximally truncated.

120,000 units
Instead of going for 120, 000 units of the direct data capturing machine (DDC) as proposed by INEC, Nigcomsat can solve the problem with only 5,000 units of smart card, adding that his agency can also provide the DDC using Zinox as an indigenous technology to get the software installed in a computer. It is about the scope, somebody can mention figure. The only thing I can say is that there is no way we will not save cost at least 20 to 25 per cent using our own e-voting system. In our own proposal, we don’t need more than 5,000 units against 120,000 units mentioned by INEC.

What we calculated were 4,000 units, which means that in every local government area we would have a minimum of about five points and one could capture about 200 voters everyday. Individually, in a month, we would be able to capture 180,000 voters in a local government area. In one month, one could capture the whole nation using 4,000 units of smart cards. But if the country insists on using DDC, we have all the technologies and applications needed.

Collaboration
Yes, with the collaboration from Nigcomsat, Zinox, Beta and Omatek, INEC problem would be solved. INEC could use this to encourage local capacity building just like the Obasanjo’s memo supported local IT manufacturers. They can ride on that. And the beauty of it all is that we have created an electronic ballot system, which cannot be manipulated because it has been built to detect biometrics of every user.

We can export this to Ghana, some other West African countries, Europe and even America. If china is exporting technological product to America, I don’t see what could be stopping us from exporting technological product to America. And we have applied for United States, Europe as well as world wide patent for this product. This means that we believe, nobody has done it in the world and that is the truth, we have so much confidence. It is still pending, they have not replied us, which means nobody has done it because once you apply for US patent and worldwide patent, they will start doing their research.
If we adopt this solution, it will put Nigeria on the path of technological progress, diversifies our economy and attaining our vision 2020 would be actualised.

Culled from Daily Sun, August 24, 2010.
Post Merge: August 24, 2010, 04:01:35 PM@Emmy: The last info from Daily Sun contains hard facts as had been presented on this forum in my previous submissions, now being corroborated by another industry practitioner, not noise-making and lousy people like blacksatan who lacks the coherence to assemble his thoughts!
Post Merge: August 24, 2010, 07:24:36 PM@blackjesus: I'm surprised a graduate could be as incoherent as you are, bringing up irrelevant points about a subject u know little about. You betrayed too much of your crass ignorance about the subject matter. It appears to me u're capable of comprehending little facts which u seek so much to distort maybe for want of something to say. And because u lack understanding of simple truths, u equate aluta with violence. I suggest u stop distracting us and being personal. It appears also that u lack a thorough understanding of the English language as u have exhibited poor choice of words to express ur thoughts and u end up conveying veiled insults. From inception, your sole aim has been to undermine intelligent discourse and to discredit this thread.
Post Merge: August 24, 2010, 07:51:50 PM@blackjesus: u forgot to tell us what scholl and what year so we can verify from ur mates the truth in ur statements.

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@Davinci;hahaha! I am sorry i am just getting your posting. It is funny you are going back to what i initially said, that we watch and wait the outcome of things before crucifying Jega; I didnt want you to reason like a member of the Nigerian Police Force who dont know the difference between a suspect and a criminal. Now you are going back to what i said but shamelessly throwing violence at me; dude, i never preached violence, read back the old postings i sent. You were believing Nigerians have had enuff of waiting and i told u Nigerians have never waited and watched, and i took you back through history of coups, countercoups and riots, which i said never helped us. I said we should watch where Jega will tread if he would destroy his own political career like IBB and Iwu. I believe you can read and who is being inconsistent here. I still stand on the poiint that Jega be not hanged yet.
      You dont even know the function of a moderator, you are supposed not to be so opinionated about debates but only to give fair hearings; but rather you have displayed dictatorial and bigoted views of wanting contributors to think along your line when this is supposed to be democratic views. But from the onset that i gave my view you made it clear it is Nigerians like me that ruin the polity with watch and wait (but now i have turned violent abi? and you are also telling me 2011 is going to be an epoch and i should watch too). Dont be so opinionated, go and learn the job of a moderator first. Leave the wrangling to those who come aboard the forum...not you.
   And since you remained bigoted in your views and throwing offense that my nonviolent views of watching the outcome first are not good for the future of the polity, i said two things; i made it clear i am not shirking duties as a well-meaning Nigerian and i made reference to my student days to tell you i also believe in acting, but you think the word Aluta means violence; guy study your Latin. And for your info, the Aluta i led was commended by the DPO for the fact that not one shard of glass was broken though we won our cause which were 1; repair of school generators for us to read at nights 2; water for our toiletries and domestics 3; fumigation of the hostels; all were achieved without bloodshed or violence but only boycotts. maybe you should be reminded that students embark on aluta demonstrations (which sometimes degenerate to violence, something which can happen even if any civil right movement is staging a public protest) after VC have failed to honor roundtable dialogues. Ask yourself who is the miscreant, the irresponsible VC who allow campuses to degenerate or the student who is fighting for his right along with others, and labeled as louts by your misinformed kinds. Femi Falana played active aluta roles in his school days, Gani Fawehinmi's chambers till his death represents student union leaders VC intimidates and even Soyinka during his teaching days in Nigeria distributed leaflets to support student agitations. Fela had YAP in UNILAG...dude the list is endless and it is such a shame coming from a so-called moderator to call student unionists miscreants.
    Secondly i asked you (since you chose to be saying my watch and wait views spell doom for the polity) to agree that i am a watch and waiter, okay o, u wey no be watch and waiter, let me know what you intend to do practically to assert your different views from mine since you as a moderator want ppl to support your "dont wait and watch" view.
   But rather than prove you are not a demagogue you clearly tell me point blank you are a demagogue without able to produce hardheaded facts of action (acting does not mean warring; again learn your English). Acting can come in various forms, the media, stage rallies and stuff whatever, apart from my waiting and watching which you are criticizing; but like demagogues do you let loose string of words that reveal your emotion and not your rationality; demagogues talk base on emotions not rationality, like that president of Haiti, Aristides (i doubt you even know him) everyone knew Aristides as a demagogue.
     Aluta is not violence, though it degenerates to violence if not controlled and if the VCs dont respect peaceful discuss. Moderators are not bigoted dogmas, they listen more to others' views democratically and SUGGEST not want ppl to dictatorially tag along with their views at all cost; and finally, i will forgive your ignorance in not knowing the difference btw  Cultism and Occultism, since you have displayed heaps of ignorances anyway; we dont have occults on our campuses what we have are cultism, which the army govt. of IBB penetrated from their heydays as frats so as to use these violent bodies to hunt down student union leaders and radical lecturers since our universities then were giving the military govt. sleepless nights.
    I dont know who made you a moderator but you need to go for more brush ups and not allow arguments reveal your inferiority complex by throwing words; argue with facts not words. You cannot control your tongue, how then do you think you can control a forum of different views, let alone suggest views to control a country of close to 200 million ppl. am having a good laugh here. If this forum can only produce moderators like you then i guess it is for boys yet to grow out of their pampers and think shouting and railing makes them participate in the way things are run.
    Moderators are supposed to be very civil and educated, you are not; education, mind you is not just passing through a university, we have graduates like you (if you are) who are shaming our ivory towers, not thanx to the military purging our schools of great minds because they wanted everyone to think like them, as u also want. (though am surprised u are now turning it against me as if i ever preached violence; what i preached was watch and wait until Jega proves himself a saint or a crook).
     Learn your Latin, learn your language and learn to listen to others' views ( the job of a moderator); Education is not just filling the bucket you call head, it is lighting a fire of enlightenment that will dispel the gloom of ignorance.

@ blackjesus you have a point, i think we should all wait and see but sometimes one has to be skeptical as in prevention which davincii is canvasing here but i still hold on to your comment, just less than 6 months if truly the election will hold by January 2011, we will all know the truth.

[Davincii]

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Hello, fellow compatriots! Been away for a while on some critical assignment. Watch out for more scoops on the way forward, conducting a credible voters' registration exercise that all Nigerians can trust and rest assured we sure do have an authentic document at the end of the day.

[Davincii]

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@Emmy: I want to believe the federal government is taking a second look at the whole thing, and they really need to. This whole registration exercise can be carried out and completed in 3 - 4 days if INEC  really wants to use technology as it claims. It's a sad commentary on the level of IT illiteracy of our elected representatives and top government functionaries as well as our university dons. What a shame! Jega wants to buy DDC machines, yet he thinks manually!
Post Merge: August 20, 2010, 12:23:27 PM@emmy: Funny enough, these guys fritter away the nation's resources attending very expensive computer courses organized by least qualified persons (just to settle the boys and have a huge cut -  it always goes back to them). Most times, they only just collect their allowances and fail to attend. Where they even attend, the spend the money of peoples' wives and prostitutes in choice hotels around the globe.

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Only God knows who is fooling who as INEC chief Jega loud out that the required fund for the exercise hasn't been released up to now even though with the approval of the said amount by the national assemblies and federal executive council board.

[Davincii]

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Fellow Nigerians, let me confirm to you from the laid out plans above that INEC has reeled out, the entire exercise is subject to compromise. Jega is doing nothing different from what Iwu or any other person had done. Remember, Jega's integrity alone cannot get us there. What about the good old INEC personnel who are the real masters of results falsification?

Here are the reasons:

1.   INEC clearly does not intend to use the data capturing machines for what it really is, but as a manual system as using pen and      paper to record the proceedings. The aim is just to capture photographs and fingerprints, that are not going to be used anyway, and some data and then print out the voters' card or that would be printed and people would have to go and collect them later. There are no plans to print out immediately the captured list for the day so people and  verify. The data would then be taken to collation centres and INEC would print voters' register for display later, most likely days after the exercise, giving enough time for manipulation. The registered voter's card can be issued immediately after capture. So capture, production of voters' cards and verification takes place instantly. This is the only credible way and it can be done seamlessly.

2.    This is exactly what I've been talking about. The only way we can curb electoral fraud perpetrated through voters' register is to publish the data immediately after each day's exercise at each centre for people who participated to verify - they know themselves and can tell who did not really register. Then also, the data must be uploaded immediately fro each centre to INEC Headquarters' Servers loaded with analytical software to collate these data from different centres and give the needed summaries and actual listings. INEC can hook up the servers to large display screens in a hall at the headquarters and Journalists and party representatives can view these real data as they come in instantly and record them. Even the lists for each centre can also be printed out immediately and obtained by the interested stakeholders. That way also, NGO's and other interested parties can independently verify at the community-level the data so displayed and summaries published in the press. Then also, during litigations, the local copies at the communities, one of which must be pasted immediately after the day's proceedings and a copy given to the community leaders duly signed by the data handling personnel of INEC can be presented by disputing parties as hard evidence during litigations bordering on actual elections and would also make for speedy dispensation of justice.

3.   Anything short of this would guaranty us massive failure at 50!

Fellow Nigerians, this is INEC's shoddy plan to expend your =N=87.7bn on just one of the items detailed above (Voters' Registration Exercise). Jega has really not come to terms with the potentials of his personnel for fraud and how dexterous and desperate politicians are to compromise the system.

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@Nick: INEC initially asked for =N=55bn, then changed it to =N=72bn and then again to =N=74bn. But Goodluck Jonathan, in  his own wisdom and generosity (?) with the country's treasury thought it wise as a proof of his readiness to meet the yearnings of Nigerians (or rather, it is a sure proof that he is one of the masterminds behind the unprecedented looting of the treasury so openly, yet feigning innocence) to dole out =N=89bn. Our elected (selected) representatives in the National Assembly (some of whom are part of the looting scheme) decided to look the other way and approved the sum of =N=87.7bn for just voters' registration exercise! Can u please read between the lines? Our treasury is going empty and there's a world class (supposedly) minister of finance who has chosen not to cry foul! What a shame!
Post Merge: August 18, 2010, 09:49:27 PM@blackjesus: You seem to believe that everything can be achieved with violence. I have studied your statements carefully and they're laden with potent poison to destroy what you're trying so hard to know. Sorry, you won't get it! I can only assure you that 2011 will be an epoch making year. Watch out and see! The food for the children is not meant for ....!
Post Merge: August 18, 2010, 09:53:19 PM@blackjesus: It's obvious where u belong and who you are. Sorry, I don't have time to waste on bullies who trivialize important issues and who think of violence where intelligent, strategic actions would just do! Grow up my friend!
Post Merge: August 18, 2010, 10:06:21 PM@blackjesus: Thank u so much for telling us u were one of those social miscreants who led riots on campus each time u were not prepared to sit for your exams. U were one of the problems in the university where u had ur education who rather than study went on the rampage without thinking of the cost and without proper reasoning. Ur submissions have been so bird-brained and myopic and shows every trait of an unstable mind what with all the incoherence you have displayed so far. It is not to a Nigerian like you I refer. I'm referring to responsible, hard working and corruption free Nigerians or those who are fed up with it all. Nigerians, except you, are fed up with the mess. Warfare has gone beyond brutal, barbaric actions which often lead to the death of innocent people while a 'no-gooder' like you who start them run into hiding and leave ur bewitched followers to die. It's not enough for you to lead aluta. Tell us for what meaningful purpose did u lead aluta other than that u were under the influence of hard drugs and occultism? Those were certainly clear opportunities for u to destroy innocent souls and give make blood sacrifices to ur demons and also an opportunity for u to loot the properties of hard working Nigerians. At the expense of intelligent discourse and strategy, you promote wanton violence and shedding of blood. It's only people like u who do not realize that sovereignty rests with the people and when they are awakened to their responsibilities and rights, that would be the most potent weapon. Grow up! Warfare has moved from carrying arms and ammunitions and other weapons of destruction but to strategy and focused and well-aimed strikes! Enough of so much wasted time with u! I'm convinced you are not a youth and an occultist looking for avenues to spill innocent blood!

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=N=74b for voter's registration only?, i tot that amount should have been for all expenses including the election proper, well u can never say when its naija.   

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There is never any foolproof 100% democracy anywhere; not even in america. i am not expecting a magic wand from Jega but i only expect to be impressed by his efforts. If all men were perfect each would naturally take the same road as the other; it is only imperfection that allows variations. If Iwu had not failed we would not have known there is need for something better than what OBJ gave us. and it is from these imperfections that perfection will be endlessly pursued; a philosopher too once said; "perfection can never be achieved but only endlessly pursued."
    You think saying we should watch what Jega will do now translates to watching the whole hog of corruption? these are two different things. Nigeria has always been corrupt and nobody like that every well meaning Nigerian will do anything (if he had the power) to change it. this is entirely different fromJega whom i cannot judge his personality yet as his precedence on the political tabular rasa is still blank.
    Okay, crucfy me for saying airing my perspective, but i throw it to you. GIVE ME ONE PRACTICAL SOLUTION DIFFERENT FROM WATCHING AND DIFFERENT FROM JUST SITTING IN YOUR COZY APARTMENT AND TALKING! Prove you are not a demagogue and give one practical solution that will take u or any of us right to the forefront of effecting an instant change or probably dragging Jega's agbada. Dont just talkj anymore now, give me some action! i want that from u; someone can start something since you are saying we should stop sitting on our lazy asses; Okay, actor,...act now! Dont say pl wont follow; I have led alutas before while i was in school even and i know u can get ppl to act even before they realize they are doing it. I WANT SAME FROM YOU NOW!!!!!!!!!!! ACT AND STOP COMPLAINING! THE REST OF US LAZY LOUTS ARE WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO WHIP US INTO A FRENZY.

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@blackjesus: How about all Nigerians going out to register and ensuring that they monitor (it's a sacrifice for true democracy) the proceedings at the registration centre and also to ensure that the list for the day is published immediately for verification. There's not guaranty that Jega can properly supervise 360,000 ad hoc staff and to prevent them from compromising the lists after being given irrestible juicy sums of money by politicians (trust them, they always know how to compromise any and everything). I have nothing against Jega as a person. But, I have a problem with his first step as CEO (he should have been more thorough with the budget as the buck in the end stops at his table). I'm more interested in ensuring the exercise is fruitful. Do you have an insight into INEC's strategies? If those machines are to be used as mere data entry device and all the data taken to another centre for collation, then I assure you it's very open to compromise. May be you have ideas on how you and I as Nigerians and stakeholders can ensure this exercise represents out true numbers and there are no Michael Jacksons, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Obafemi Awolowo and otehrs on the list? That should be our focus.
Post Merge: August 15, 2010, 10:22:25 AM@blackjesus: Thanks for speaking for Jega. Our arguments are in the public for Nigerians to make up their mind about the exercise. Your opposition made the submissions more thought provoking and insightful and highly interesting! One Nigeria! No one will save Nigeria for us! We shall have to do it ourselves! I submit we cannot do it folding our arms and just watching! It's your future, my future, everybody's future and that of the unborn we're talking about here. a political philosopher once said, "A people deserve the kind of leader they get". In essence, when we fold our arms, we leave all to the mediocre and bandits to rule us while we wait for GOD who in His Mercies has engraved a sense of what is right or wrong in us and has given us the intelligence to govern ourselves and to make of our society the land flowing with milk and honey. He has endowed us with the greatest concentration of natural resources in the world. he has given us an abundance of talents, many who have ended up in untimely graves due to poor governance. Yet, we shall sit down and watch! I weep for my country with the likes of you! I say NO! God and we in unison with Him will salvage our country!
Post Merge: August 15, 2010, 03:01:10 PM'You know that most of our politicians do not have jobs. Once they leave office, they would not have any source of income again. And let me tell you, by the time Jonathan declares and is given the PDP ticket, all the governors including the ones who have been kicking against it would fall in line. That is where we lack culture of consistency, resistance and commitment to the common good. We have lost our values and people talk from all sides of their mouth and these are the same people we call our leaders.' Alhaji Shettima Yerima is the president, Arewa Youth Consultative Forum (AYCF) and youth leader of Pro-National Conference (PRONACO).